Anyone call/bring in blacktail or black bear? You can email the site owner to let them know you were blocked. Then there are really big, world-record-class bull elk. Killing a big bull at a steep quartering angle takes a very good cartridge, topped with a tough, deep-penetrating bullet. The final arbiters of the Best elk calibers are you and the elk, but here are my top five that I chose for their balance of power, reach, recoil, trajectory (drop and drift,) availability, affordability in reasonably compact, light, mountain ready rifles. Start with the .30/30 Winchester and climb until your nose bleeds. One, lung-shot by a client with a .270, reared as might a horse then fell backward, planting its long beams in the ground. GOHUNT is a registered trademark of GOHUNT, LLC. But, because elk have big antlers and big bodies, some hunters believe it takes an even bigger bullet to kill them. font-size: 18px; No idea why the pic is upside down.just flip your phone. What's New in Bowhunting World The 300-inch Bull Elk from Gila I've called in quite a few bulls for other people that have scored 250 to 300 inches. high B.C. font-size: 14px; Many elk hunters consider the old .375 H&H the ultimate elk medicine, but not everyone cares to handle their recoil or the kind of rifle mass that tames it. Its extremely versatile with a broad selection of bullet weights, and with the right bullet is a great long-range performer. padding: 10px 5px; A bull with 6 tines on each side is called a 6X6 ("6 by 6"). The third tines are about the same as the brow tines and the fourth is generally 18 inches or less. Home Accommodations Photos/Sizes Pricing Reviews . The 7mm Remington Magnum and .300 Winchester Magnum rifles have 26-inch barrels. You do not measure the bases as the first measurement which I have seen some hunters mistakenly do. Be aware of straight looking points without much end curve because they are often shorter than you think. 180-gr. Mag. Its phenomenally accurate, pushes aerodynamic projectiles with high sectional densities at reasonable velocities that dont tear bullets to shreds on impact, recoils little, and has proven more capable than it has any right to be. word-break: normal; Use enough gun, enough caliber, and enough cartridge and bullet to invite them to dinner. 300 Bull: G1= 14, G2= 14, G3=10, G4= 16, G5= 8. I can't explain those kills. Tines can reach 18 inches long or longer. Free ranging bulls of 350+ caliber will cost from $15,000 . Recoil is about 30-percent less than the .338 Win. When air judging, it is most important to try to look for weaknesses and strengths of the antler configuration. When he is facing you, look at the width of his ears. A cartridge that starts a slippery bullet with plenty of speed provides flat trajectories and maximum wind-bucking ability. Mag., .300 RUM, and .30-378 Wby. The reason is because Im not that interested in net scores. border-style: solid; This guys is on the lower end of your range just breaking 260. Any real or perceived failure of the 7mm Rem. Built into a titanium short action with a 20-inch Proof Research carbon fiber barrel and a McMillan Edge stock, it will weigh under six. Hunters looking to break into the B&C minimums or hunters looking to figure out the difference from a 370 bull from a 390 bull all need to dissect a bulls rack long before they decided to pull the trigger. Want the best cartridge for elk hunting? Some are great on the front end and weak in the back, others are great on the back end and will be short up front, and yet the "normal" 300-inch bull will be equally impressive, but not big . Use them in commercial designs under lifetime, perpetual & worldwide rights. The antlers are light in mass by comparison to an older larger bull. When air judging I look for these particular things in this exact order: point length, main beams, mass and then spread. Thats right, you should have already shot! Five whopper Pennsylvania bull elk are in this year's state record book, including the new state #1 non-typical, 455-inch bull elk taken in 2020 in Elk County by hunter Duane Kramer. The distance from that hump down his front leg to his hoof is generally 54 to 58, depending on the maturity of the bull. Messages. Those are better trajectory numbers than many .338 Win. Add these to the base of 200 for a total of 360. Mag. 320 class bulls. Mag. Check your email for a confirmation message. Once you estimate the length of the fourth points, move to the fifths and compare them with the fourths to determine their length. This is a grand-old cartridge based on the .308 Winchester, but it is loaded with a .358-caliber bullet. Handloaders report optimum performance with a sleek, high B.C., 225-grain bullet pushed to an impressive 2,882 fps from a 24-inch barrel. Grossed at 323 and netted 318. Sixteen-year-old Cody Vine of Arizona took this 7x6 bull elk scoring 428 while bowhunting in the Kaibab National Forest last fall. The bull elk is North Americas toughest hooved big-game animal. If you only have one elk on the wall, a bull with six inch forks will "look" big. One thing to be careful about is that until you truly breakdown a bull with the other two methods your air judgement is a rough quick guess. Maybe in some altered reality this might be true, but the .358 cannot compete with a 165-grain .308 or .30/06 load at any distance beyond 100 yards. But I still dont consider them a top pick for elk just because, well, larger calibers provide a slight edge. A 140- to 150-grain .264 driven to the same speeds as a .270 Win. Many an elk hunter has suggested the .300 Win. You must log in or register to reply here. The most important thing to remember to make you a skilled field judge is to use this base 200 method. It offers shocking good performance in a beltless, standard-length case and is becoming the go-to, extreme-range hunting cartridge. This meant the .338 Win. border-color: #656565; However, it doesnt handle projectiles heavier than 180 grains as well as other magnums. While Im generally not a fan of short magnum cartridges, this one has proven itself a very capable elk cartridge and deserves a place on the list. Ammunition can be found at every small-town hardware store across America. You are using an out of date browser. scoring If the point is 10 shorter, then the bull probably has a 20 fourth point. 3,637. FORLOH AllClima Softshell and AllClima Stretch Woven Pant Review. This bull grossed 305 and netted 298. How To Score Your Elk. Mag., look at a .338 Federal, .358 Win., or even 7mm-08 Win. You must always have two views. Fine options include the old .264 Win. But, credit where credit is due, its a great elk cartridge. Bulls scoring 350-380 . Mag. We have a variety of deals on Rifle Ammo, Handgun Ammo, Shotgun Ammo & Rimfire Ammo, as well as ammo for target practice, plinking, hunting, or shooting competitions. .308-inch diameter bullet carrying 1,500 ft-lb energy and I doubt theyll notice any difference. Sales bloomed immediately when it released. Mag., and no one howls about that being too fast. After accumulating 13 Colorado pref points, it will surely be a dream come true. text-align: center; What does a 380+INCH Elk look like? Here's why. The 6.5 Creedmoor is no dragon slayer. Bull elk antlers are typically referenced by the number of tines, with each side referenced separately. numbers hitting .590 or so, keep velocities at 3,000 fps with carefully built handloads, and 300-yard drop is only 2.3 inches, wind deflection 4.7 inches, retained energy 2,700 ft-lb. Mag., 6.5 Weatherby RPM, 6.5-300 Wby. I tried to find similar pictures of each for comparison. Gender. If you think those measurements deviate from the magic number, just add or subtract the differences accordingly. Just as importantly, it delivers plenty of punch on far-distant impacts. The second method requires you to actually break the elk down and measure him by estimating actual point and beam length, mass and inside spread. If you need to balance reach and punch with minimal weight, Id look to the 7mm magnums pushing 150- to 175-grain bullets. Featuring a belt-free, standard-length case with a shoulder sharp enough to provide ultimate capacity and internal efficiency, yet not too steep for slick feeding, it outperforms even the .300 Weatherby Magnumand fits in standard-size bolt actions. Two problems. Mag., some less. This list of the best cartridges for elk hunting starts with the welterweights and moves up to the heavy hitters. Some cartridges take root in the hunting world quickly, others fade . Before the 6.5 Creedmoor was born, this was my favorite cartridge for any recoil-sensitive shooters. hatched five years later and gave big brother a real run for his money. Assuming we have have a bull elk down that weighs 500 pounds field dressed and we set to work and de-bone all the meat, yielding 250 lbs of meat an allowing about 40 lbs for his head. Final analysis: Its not for everyone, but when you want to drive tough, heavy .30-caliber bullets fast, its awesome. This little brother to the .338 Win. With the right bullets, it can actually hit harder than the 375 H&H Magnum at longer ranges. will kick with 29.3 ft-lb, and the 300 will slap you with 37 ft-lb. word-break: normal; border-color: #656565; .tg { throwing similar weight projectiles means youre packing elk medicine. 320 Bull: G1=15, G2= 15, G3= 12, G4= 16, G5= 8. If the .338s are the best caliber on the upper end for elk, the 7mms are the best at the lower end. worldwide popularity. vertical-align: top But seriously, the way to judge them is to score their frame and points just like you would a typical 66, then size up the non typical points and add that to your total. Heres what to do when you run up against non typicals or bulls such as 77s. Mag. Silvertine kills more 400" bulls than any other hunt ranch . The hunt was donated by Trophy Mountain Ranch, an estate hunting outfitter located near Cowdrey, Colorado. What is the average muzzle energy for a .280 Remington? background-color: #333333; Ill stick my neck out and say it: This is the best 6.5mm cartridge ever devised for hunting. Note that a 320 bull will likely have 46 to 48 inch beams, about 56 inches of total mass, and a 38 inch spread. A final consideration these days is availability of guns and ammo. POLL: when was the last time you went to a drive-in movie? The only way to really estimate the inside spread of a bull elk is for him to face you. This phenonemon is known as drag or air resistance. } Yes, it lacks one of the three virtues vital to great elk cartridges. There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. cannot measure up to the .338 Win. That 380 bull with these extras would score around 417. Because Winchester didnt insist on the caliber being proprietary, anyone could load and chamber for it. But if youre going to this narrow caliber, choose one with more velocity than the Creedmoor. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Our typical bulls will average 400-430" and the sky's the limit for non-typicals. Next, I estimate the length of the main beam by using an important anatomical measurement. Bowsdork, woah that's amazing elk! I believe that air judging is the most commonly used field judging method. 360 Bull: G1= 16, G2= 16, G3= 16, G4= 20, G5= 12. Elk dont like any of this. Finally, the .280 Ackley Improved is rocketing to western-hunting stardom. border-width: 1px; Again, the goal of this article is simply to address the question of whether .280 Remington is within the ideal range of suitable calibers to harvest elk - and to this question, the response again is yes, the .280 Remington is A GOOD CHOICE for elk hunting. Our Genetics are improving each year and our antler average is getting bigger each year. Next, try to figure out how mature is the bull that you are looking at and keep it simple. but doesnt kick as hard. Choose at least medium weight for caliber: 140 grains in 6.5mm and the lighter 7mms; 140 and 150 grains in .270s; 150 to 160 grains in faster 7mms; 165 or 180 grains in .30 calibers. Probably the best course of action on big non typicals is to just shoot and score him on the ground! Jay Scott Outdoors When a big bull is bugling and rutting, elk fever always seems to add a few inches to an estimated score. Short in the Elvis era meant standard or 30/06 length: 3.340-inches overall cartridge length, down from the 3.6-inches of the parent cartridge. Is the bull really 40 inside or is he 36? }. Males and females also have varied weight ranges. I left it out because with its gargantuan powder capacity its almost too much of a good thing. I understand what you are saying Bobmuley, but 5" could make or break a record book bull. Las Vegas, NV 89113. Disclaimer: the information above is purely for illustrative purposes and should not be taken as permission to use a particular caliber, a statement of the legality or safety of using certain calibers, or legal advice in any way. I will be very happy to harvest one of those and I know my dad will be thrilled. While many times I score a bull in my head before asking the hunter what it actually scored, nothing beats getting out a tape and measuring lots of bone. Its the finest all-around cartridge available for youth, women, and new shooters. } It will take 3 trips at 97 lbs per trip, 4 trips at 73 lbs per trip and 5 trips at 58 lbs per trip. Many times we hunters get overly caught up with trophy hunting. I realizethat not every bull will be a typical 66. You can up your odds by having a great elk tag, choosing a great area, booking a high fence hunt. thanks coondog Aug 10, 2005 #2 Tom New member Joined Jan 22, 2001 Messages 4,985 Location San Antonio, Texas, USA Here's a bunch from 300 to 400+ SCI scoring ones. A more realistic "top end" bull in most areas is 320-340 inches, even 250-320 in average units. The .264 topped out at 140-grains. In purely practical terms, no elk cartridge equals the beautifully balanced .300 Win. Though it's not an extremely popular elk cartridge, there's not a darn reason why you can't go elk hunting with the 280 AI. Not too hard, not too soft, not too fast, not too slow, but just right because it shoots mid-caliber .284-inch diameter bullets. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. In essence, good elk cartridges drive tough, heavy bullets of healthy diameter, and drive em fast. The first method is to air judge also known as the wing-it approach, which is based on experience and prior knowledge. Second, I forgot which socks are my lucky ones. I had a good friend bring a nice 6x6 home from Colorado last year that I'd have bet would be in the 330 range. In 2022, he was named as the brands Shooting Editor. Of course those stories exist, and they are not disputed here. Learn more . Other 7mms The 7mm family hatched around 1892 with the 7x57mm Mauser and has since grown to fifteen or more. This is my brothers bull from 2003, grosses right at 295. Most hunters . Short Magnums, Long Magnums, Ultra Magnums, stubby cases with long bullets, long cases even longer bullets; the list goes on and on. But dont try to punch a raking shot through a bulls hipit doesnt have the juice for that. Mag. So, I'm guessing him to be in that range you asked about. Non Typical bulls are undoubtedly the hardest to judge in the field. The 280 Remington could be the Goldilocks of standard-length action hunting rounds. Please feel free to agree, disagree, and share stories from your own experience in the comments section below. However, since the 2007 advent of the 6.5 Creedmoor, theyve taken the target and hunting world by storm. The question is, are detached retinas worth it? Some .30-calibers work best in lever actions, some in short actions, some in full magnum actions. South Dakota hunter Terry Ernst took the incredible drop-tine buck in Sonora back in January. Ya know, those are some fantastic bulls. thanks coondog. 6630 Arroyo Springs St., Suite 1200 I feel that if you can estimate a bull on the hoof within 10 inches, you are a good field judge. If thats the camp you hunt from, have at it, but understand that with the .338 Remington Ultra Magnum, every time you pull the trigger you will get smacked with about 45 foot-pounds of recoil. Throw the excellent 32 calibers into the mix, the .325 WSM and 8mm Rem. font-weight: normal; This is the unfortunate trade off. Re: In search of pics of a 260-300 bull. because maximum average chamber pressure is 64,000 psi. Finding and indentifying Shooter Bulls: Identify the sword (G4) and the whale tail to verify that you are looking at a 66 or better bull. I've often though that a cow elk hunt . Entact would have been close to 310. Some come in ultralight rifles for easy mountain hunting, some in extra heavy platforms for stand hunting or longer range shooting. A high B.C. Elk (Cervus Canadensis), or Wapiti, are not only one of the world's largest game deer but also one of North America's and East Asia's largest mammals. pictures? Lots of folks like .30-caliber magnums for elk hunting, and they work exceptionally well. Mag., and elk hardly know the difference. Mag. for me. a 300 bull needs to have the 5/6 points close to the same length as the 4th. Just as theres a significant difference between a 22-year-old, 6-foot 4-inch athlete and a 50-year-old, 5-foot 7-inch accountant, theres a huge difference between rolling prairies and 11,000-foot peaks poking above doghair stands of pine and spruce. The .270 Winchester, .270 WSM, .280 Ackley Improved, .30-06, and .300 WSM Mountain Ascents have 24-inch barrels. LOL. Thats good and congrats to your girl You must log in or register to reply here. In 1963, everyone knew the all-American .30/06, so they had a benchmark against which to judge this belted magnum throwing the same familiar bullets 200 fps faster. Every good elk cartridge has three primary characteristics: authority, reach, and good bullets. It has a near perfect balance of length, width, power, and recoil. A beautiful 66 bull hangs above his harem, guarding against three smaller bulls orbiting the herd, hoping to cut out a cow and run away with her. Richard Mann was born and raised in West Virginia and has hunted from the Montana mountains to the green hills of Africa. After those stalwarts comes a blizzard of .30-calibers that claw their way up the power scale. A common thread you may encounter in online forums is anecdote after anecdote of large animals being brought down by small caliber bullets, or small animals surviving large caliber bullets. Pair it with an accurate 180-grain bullet and hunt confidently, knowing that your rifle is adequate for any reasonable scenario. Today most ammo makers also offer 225-grain bullets in a variety of controlled expansion configurations that retain mass well enough to penetrate better than the original 250-grain cup/core styles while delivering equal, sometimes more muzzle energy thanks to higher muzzle velocity. Hunting elk in Colorado requires patience and a keen eye. Hit an elk with a 175-gr. We trot down the ridge, searching for a spot to glass the bull's position. A bull elk is a male, which is much larger and heavier than a female, called a cow. 280 140 244 122 2 337 168 . .tg td { Thats a lot of antler! For more on Arizona Guided Elk Hunts visit:http://exclusivepursuitoutfitters.com/arizona-elk-hunting/ I start by estimating the brow tines (the first two points) by seeing how close they are in comparison to the length from the burr to the tip of the bulls nose. If a Berger (hunting) VLD from a 7mm Rem mag can effectively kill bull elk with enough downrange velocity and energy out to 900 yards (with the right optics of course), as I`ve seen on TV, then certainly a 280 Rem can do the job within all reported (long and short) AVERAGE hunting distances for elk, which are mostly all within 500 yards. If youre shopping for the perfect elk caliber/rifle, determine how much recoil you can tolerate without flinching and how much rifle weight you might enjoy packing. Mag., and you understand why its not just the most popular .300 magnum of all time, but one of the best all-round elk calibers of all time. profile of a giant - big bull elk stock pictures, royalty-free photos & images. elkkill2006 # 3957463 04/01/10. These measurements can vary widely depending on where you put the tape. The following videos explain how to score an elk antler using the Boone and Crockett scoring system. Look for good curve in the G1, G2, & G3 points. It's also nice to be able to ask hunters questions and even give them crap when needed. With the right bullet, a .270 will put down any bull walking the earth today. But look at the length of the 4's. What we can do is provide a framework to understand what average conditions might look like, and whether those are reasonably viable for a shot from the average shooter to harvest a elk in the fewest number of shots possible, i.e., ethically. It has nice tails but the 4 is a little short as well as the 3. With that said, we have assumed the average hunting distance for elk to be approximately 200 yards. Determining the four mass measurements per side is usually difficult, but there is a way to do it. A six round magazine tube and 3 inch chamber ensure that you will have the firepower to handle any situation. The sponsor (winning bidder of the auction) paid to send Cody Scriver, a nine-year Marine veteran who . Bulls with straight looking points wont score well. This is meant to be used as a fun tool to help you sharpen your elk antler scoring skills. While not quite reliable, it has its place at times. Certainly the .270s and 6.5mms can and do take elk annually, but one would be hard pressed to recommend them as optimum. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. I'd have to look up how that would differ from B&C scoring. Is the .280 Remington a viable caliber/load/round/cartridge for elk hunting? Clearly there is no one right answer. With the draw results out in the western states there are many hunters celebrating their good fortune in the draw. We may earn revenue from the products available on this page and participate in affiliate programs. We offer a 100% Authenticity Guarantee on all products sold on our website. Browse 755 big bull elk stock photos and images available, or start a new search to explore more stock photos and images. .308-inch diameter bullet carrying 1,500 ft-lb energy and I doubt they'll notice any difference. That is, the best of the best for terminating elk without beating up shooters. The way to score an elk is as follows: B&C score Plus Its faster than the 6.5-284, and more efficient than the 26 Nosler. Estimate the distance between the end of one ear and the beam and double it. Bulls Scoring 380-400. This is a 297 bull that has a broken tine. Like other members of the deer family, the antlers of bull elk grow during spring and summer beneath a hairy skin covering known as velvet. in the mid .4s to low .5s, good enough to provide maximum point blank range of 320 to 340 yards on a 10-inch target zone. Click to reveal If the rack does not look heavy and has a thin appearance, I attribute 27 of mass per side or 54 total. 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